LG OLED B9 vs Samsung Q80R Review (OLED55B9 vs QN55Q80R, OLED65B9 vs QN65Q80R)
The Samsung Q80R is the second top model of Samsung’s 2019 QLED TV lineup. It comes to replace the 2018’s Q8FN. In this lineup, it sits between the Q90R and Q70R. On the other hand, the LG OLED B9 is the cheapest model of the LG’s 2019 OLED TV lineup and also the successor of the OLED B8. In the market, the Q80R comes in 4 screen sizes available including 55 inches (QN55Q80R), 65 inches (QN65Q80R), 75 inches (QN75Q80R), and 82 inches (QN82Q80R). Meanwhile, the OLED B9 comes in 3 screen sized option including 55 inches (OLED55B9PUA), 65 inches (OLED65B9PUA), and 77 inches (OLED77B9PUA). And compare among them, with the same screen size, which one is cheaper depends on the screen sizes. For their 55 inches model, the OLED B8 has hundreds of dollar cheaper price, while for their 65 inches model, the Q80R is sold cheaper.
The Samsung Q80R and LG OLED B9 both are equally excellent 4K TV with impressive picture quality. IN addition to excellent picture quality, they both also have excellent motion handling and low input lags. Overall, they are equally excellent TV for any usage. Now the question, which one is better choice between them?
LG OLED B9 vs Samsung Q80R Key Specification
|Specs and Features||LG OLED B9||Samsung Q80R|
|Resolution||4K (2160 x 3840)||4K (2160 x 3840)|
|Screen Sizes Available||55 Inches (OLED55C8PUA), 65 Inches (OLED65C8PUA), 77 Inches (OLED77C8PUA)||55 inches (QN55Q80R), 65 inches (QN65Q80R), 75 inches (QN75Q80R), 82 inches (QN82Q80R)|
|Panel Type||OLED||10 Bit VA Panel|
|Dimming Technology||Pixel Level Dimming||Full Array Local Dimming (Direct Full Array 8x)|
|Picture Engine||Alpha 7 Gen 2 Processor||Quantum Processor 4K|
|AI Related Features||AI Picture, AI Brightness, AI Sound, AI Volume||Adaptive Brightness, Adaptive Sound, Adaptive Volume|
|HDR Format Supports||Dolby Vision, Advanced HDR, HDR10, HLG||HDR10, HDR10+, HLG|
|HDR Enhancement||4K Cinema HDR, HDR Dynamic Tone Mapping Pro||Quantum HDR 12X|
|Contrast Enhancement||Object Depth Enhancer, Ultra Luminance Pro||Ultimate UHD Dimming, Ultra Black|
|Color Enhancement||Intense Color, Billion Rich Colors, Advanced Color Enhancer, True Color Accuracy Pro||Quantum Dot|
|Clarity Enhancement||Quad Step Noise Reduction, Frequency Based Sharpness Enhancer|
|4K Up-scaling||Tru 4K Up-Scaler||4K AI Up-Scaling|
|Refresh Rate Panel||Native 120 Hz||Native 120 Hz|
|Motion Technology||TruMotion 240||Motion Rate 240|
|Variable Refresh Rate Support||YES (HDMI Forum VRR)||Yes (FreeSync VRR)|
|Smart TV Platform||WebOS 4.5||Tizen 2019|
|Features||LG ThinQ AI, Google Assistant, Google Home, Amazon Alexa, Intelligence Voice Recognition, AirPlay 2, etc||Samsung Bixby 2.0, SmartThing, Google Home, Amazon Alexa, AirPlay2, etc|
|Remote||2019 Model of LG Magic Remote||TM1950C (2019 model of Samsung Smart Controller|
|HDMI Supports||HDMI 2.1 Full bandwidth (All), HDMI 2.0 Full bandwidth (All), HDCP 2.2 (All), ARC (HDMI 2), eARC||HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, CEC, HDCP 2.2|
|RF (Terrestrial Cable)||1||1|
|Composite In (AV)||1||No|
|Wi-Fi Built In||802.11ac||802.11ac|
|Total Audio Output||40 Watt(WF : 20 Watts)||40 watts|
|Dolby Atmos Support||Yes||No|
|Price||See the Price on Amazon||See the price on Amazon|
Technologies and Features of LG OLED B9 and Samsung Q80R
As we have known, the Samsung Q80R and LG OLED B9 use different panel technology. The Q80R uses OLED panel while the Q80R uses VA LED panel with quantum dot technology, “Ultra Viewing Angle” optical layer, and full array local dimming. And of course, each of these panel technologies has advantages and disadvantages to the others. The best things of OLED TVs including the OLED B9 is that it has infinite native contrast ratio, nearly-prefect black, instantaneous pixel responsive time, and good side viewing angle. On the other hand, the best thing of LED TV, particularly premium LED TV including Q80R is that it can get very bright peak brightness.
As their image processor, the Samsung Q80R is powered by the Quantum Processor 4K while the LG OLED B9 is powered by the Alpha 7 Gen 2 Processor. The similarity between them is that both of the processors are able to provide some AI-Related Features. These features can automatically adjust the TV parameters to get optimal picture quality and sound. On the Samsung Q80R, there are Adaptive Brightness, Adaptive Sound, and Adaptive Volume, while on the OLED B9, there are AI Picture, AI Brightness, AI Sound, and AI Volume. Additionally, the AI Algorithm has been also applied on their up-scaling engine that certainly will further improve the 4K up-scaled image that resulted.
As we see on comparison table above, the Samsung Q80R and LG OLED B9 support more than one HDR format. They both support HDR10 and HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma). But even so, that distinguishes among them is the dynamic HDR they support. For this case, the OLED B9 support Dolby Vision, a proprietary dynamic HDR format by Dolby Laboratories. On the other hand, the Samsung Q80R supports HDR10+, a dynamic HDR as the enhancement of HDR10.
For improving their performance in handling motion blur, the LG OLED B9 is supported by TruMotion 240Hz technology while the Samsung Q80R is supported by Motion Rate 240 Hz. But essentially, these technologies both are based on the native 120 Hz refresh rate panel. And since they both have native 120 Hz refresh rate panel, this certainly allow them are able to play 120 fps content or to interpolate the lower frame rate content up to 120 Hz. In addition their native 120 Hz refresh rate panel, they both also already supports VRR (Variable Refresh rate technology. Nevertheless, they support different VRR format. For this case, the Samsung Q80R supports FreeSync VRR while the OLED B9 supports HDMI Forum VRR. The advantage of the FreeSync than the HDMI Forum is that it is supported by more devices. On the other hand, for this time, the device that supports HDMI VRR is only Xbox One. Nevertheless, the good news for the LG B9, in the near future, LG has announced that they will launch a firmware update that makes their lineup including LG OLED B9 also support NVidia GSync.
Meanwhile, to dim its backlight, the Samsung Q80R uses PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) dimming system. However, its dimming frequency is not fixed and depends on the “TV Mode” setting. In “Movie” mode with “Auto Motion Plus” is disabled, its dimming frequency is 960 Hz which is fairly high to makes its backlight flicker is not noticeable. But even so, once “Auto Motion Plus” is changed to “Auto” or “Custom” or when the “TV mode” is set other than “Movie” mode like “Standard”, “Dynamic”, “Natural”, “Game”, or “PC”, its dimming frequency will change to 120 Hz. Meanwhile, when its BFI (Black Frame Insertion) mode is enabling, its dimming frequency will change to 60 Hz. Enabling BFI mode can help motion looks crisper, but on the other hand, this will cause its backlight flicker may bother some people. To enable its BFI mode, you simply enable “LED Clear Motion”.
On the other hand, since OLED panel doesn’t have backlight, to dim their screen, the LG OLED B9 doesn’t us PWM System. The result, its screen has almost flicker-free that means it is great. The LG OLED B9 actually also has an “OLED Motion” setting that can be used to enable its 60 Hz BFI mode. But unfortunately, this feature doesn’t work on our unit and we cannot determine, if this is a software/firmware issue or it doesn’t actually has A BFI mode. But if we refer the predecessor OLED B8, the LG B9 should have 60 Hz BFI mode.
As their main connectivity, the LG OLED B9 and Samsung Q80R both have 4 HDMI ports. But even so, the HDMI ports of the OLED B9 have more ability than the Q80R. They may both supports HDCP 2.2, CEC, HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, and ARC (Audio Return Channel). Meanwhile, the advantage of OLED B9 is about HDMI 2.1 and eARC (enhanced Audio Return Channel) support. For this case, the LG B9 already supports HDMI 2.1 and eARC while the Q80R doesn’t support. This means, the HDMI ports of the B9 can accept HFR (High Frame Rate) content such as 4K @120 Hz signal and high quality audio signal like DTS:X and Dolby Atmos via TrueHD. Meanwhile, the limited bandwidth of HDMI 2.0 doesn’t allow the Q80R support HFR and high quality audio signal.
Additionally, the LG OLED B9 also has a bit more USB ports than the Samsung Q80R. As we see on comparison table above, the OLED B9 has 3 USB ports while the Q80R has 2 USB ports. But even so, none of their HDMI ports are USB 3.0. The other difference is that the LG B9 has Composite In (AV IN) and Analog Audio Out (Mini Jack 3.5 mm) while the Q80R doesn’t have. Meanwhile, they both have 1 RF IN, 1 Ethernet Port, 1 Digital Audio out (Optical), built-in Wi-Fi, and built-in Bluetooth.
Smart TV Platform
As their Smart TV platform, the Samsung Q80R runs the 2019 version of Tizen or called “Smart Hub”, the latest version of Tizen. Meanwhile, the LG OLED B9 runs WebOS 4.5, also the latest version of WebOS. Both of these smart TV platforms have easy to use, intuitive, and simple interface. Additionally, they both also have excellent selection of preinstalled apps. There are premium VoD service like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Videos, Hulu, and more, Live TVs, Web Browser, Games, and more. They both also have an app store which provide tons of downloadable apps, games, and other you can directly download from your TV. For this case, the OLED B9 comes with LG apps Store while the Q80R comes with Samsung Apps Store. Both of these platforms are also compatible with Google Home, Amazon Alexa, AirPlay 2, and others. Meanwhile, if WebOS has Home Dashboard, the Tizen has SmartThing. These apps have similar function which is allowing them to connect with loT devices. Additionally, both of these platforms also already support Voice Navigation. If WebOS works with LG ThinQ AI, the Tizen works with Samsung Bixby 2.
Meanwhile, as their controller, both of them are equipped with smart remote. The LG OLED B9 comes with LG’s magic remote while the Samsung Q80R comes with Samsung Smart Controller. Physically, the remote of LG B9 is larger. It also has a lot of more buttons than the remote of the Q80R. Just like most of the remote, the LG remote has almost all standard buttons like “Number Buttons”, “Power On” button, volume buttons, “Direction button”, and more. Meanwhile, the Samsung remote only has a few buttons, even doesn’t have physical ‘number” buttons. The Samsung’s remote has 3 dedicated buttons for Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu, while the LG remote has 2 dedicated buttons for Netflix, and Amazon Prime. But even so, they both have many features. They both have built-in microphone for voice navigation. Additionally, they both also have universal ability, allow them to control other devices connected on their TV. The good thing is that is not only compatible CEC device that can be controlled, but also devices which don’t support HDMI CEC. Meanwhile, the advantage of the LG Remote, it has “point and click” feature that can act like the WII remote. This allows you to move the cursor on the screen by moving the remote. And combined to a clickable “Scroll wheel” at the center, this makes the navigation is much easier.
Samsung Q80R vs LG OLED B9 Performance
Contrast and Black Level
As we have known, the best thing of OLED TVs including the LG OLED B9 is that they have infinite native contrast ratio and nearly-perfect black as it can switch off individual pixels. Additionally, its individual self-lighting pixel also makes the LG B9 has excellent black uniformity. Furthermore, although it doesn’t have local dimming as it doesn’t have backlight, but its individual self-lighting pixel allow it has pixel dimming level. And combination between all these certainly makes its dark room performance is really excellent. It is able to show HDR images with popped shadow details, even when it is set in a dark room.
On the other hand, the use of “Ultra Viewing Angle” optical layer may cause native contrast ratio of the Samsung Q80R is lower than most TVs with VA panel. But even so, it has excellent local dimming feature that is able to boost its contrast ratio up to around 6000:1. The result, it is still able to produce black level deeper than 0.02 nits, deep enough to makes black looks really black or make shadow details pop, even when it is set in a dark room. Additionally, although not as excellent as on the screen of LG B9, its local dimming is also able to minimize blooming around small highlight that certainly will further improve its performance in a dark room.
Winner: LG OLED B9
While the LG OLED B9 is better in contrast ratio, the Samsung Q80R can get much brighter. Overall, with SDR content, the LG B9 can hit around 300 nits which is bright enough to fight the glare in most rooms. Meanwhile, with HDR content, it can get brighter, which is around 550 nits. The small highlights can even be shown at around 660 nits. But unfortunately, as larger areas of the screen are bright the level of the brightness diminishes due to the Automatic Bright Limiter (ABL). Even when it shows the whole screen is bright, its peak brightness is dimmed down to around 150 nits by the ABL (to prevent the excessive power consumption. This certainly is not so good. Nevertheless, overall, although not as bright as the higher series OLED C9 or C9, the peak brightness of LG OLED B9 is bright enough to make HDR details pops and small highlight looks excellently the way they should in HDR. But of course, its HDR peak brightness is still far from 1000-4000 nits intended by content creator.
Meanwhile, even though still worse than the flagship Q90R, peak brightness of the Samsung Q80R is much brighter than the LG B9. Overall, with SDR content, it is able to hit approximately 700 nits, bright enough to fight the glare in most bright rooms, even in a very bright room. Meanwhile, with HDR content, it can get around 900 nits that certainly bright enough to make HDR details pops. In certain scene, the small highlight can even be shown at around 1100 nits that mean it is great. Just like on the screen of LG B9, as larger areas of the screen are lit the level of the brightness is dimmer. But even so, it is still able to show the whole screen is bright at around 600 nits, so bright scene still looks very bright on its screen.
Winner: Samsung Q80R
Color Gamut and Color Volume
Samsung Q80R and LG OLED B9 both are able to deliver wide color gamut. But even so, in this case, the OLED B9 can deliver a bit wider color gamut than the Q80R. The color gamut of the LG B9 can cover around 97% of DCI P3 color space and around 74% of Rec.2020 color space. This is wide enough to show most colors of HDR images fairly accurately, regardless it is mastered in DCI P3 like HDR10 images or mastered in Rec.2020 like Dolby Vision content. Meanwhile, the color gamut of the Q80R can only cover around 94% of DCI P3 color space. Even though its color gamut actually is not as wide as the predecessor Q8FN or even Q7FN due to new “Ultra Viewing Angle” optical layer, but this is still wide enough to makes HDR images looks colorfully.
While the OLED B9 has a bit wider color gamut, the Samsung Q80R is better. Since it has nearly-perfect black, the LG OLED B9 can produce deep dark colors fairly well. But as we have known, the LG’s OLED panel uses additional white sub-pixel to boost its peak brightness. This will make it can produce pure white. But on the other hand, this will cause de-saturation in very bright colors that certainly makes the LG B9 cannot show bright saturated colors. The impact is that it loses color volume at the top. On the other hand, like most LED TVs, the Samsung Q80R cannot produce very bright blues. But even so, overall, it can well produce deep dark colors and bright colors across most of its gamut. So, regardless it is showing dark scene or bright scene, color of HDR images displayed on its screen looks very accurate.
Winner: LG OLED B9 has a bit wider color gamut, the Samsung Q80R has better color volume
The Samsung Q80R may have a bit better color gradient than the LG OLED B9. But even so, their difference is not too significant and in general, their color gradient is equally good. There may be still some banding in almost all dark shades, but in normal content, this should be hard to notice. So, in general, their color gradient of HDR images displayed on their screen looks very smooth. But even so, if you feel banding still bother you, both of them have a feature that can remove or minimize banding that may be visible. On the OLED B9, you can set the “Smooth Gradation” to “High”, while on the Q80R, you can set “Digital Clean View” to “Auto. But keep in mind, at the same time, this will cause loss of some fine details in some scenes.
Side Viewing Angle
The other better thing of LG OLED B9 than the Samsung Q80R is about its side viewing angle coverage. They both may be able to prevent black rising from rising up to around 70 degrees off center and front. But in preventing their brightness from decreasing, the LG B9 is better. On its screen, the brightness level can be maintained up to around 70 degrees while at the screen of the Q80R, the images will lose its brightness started at around 40 degrees. Meanwhile, on the screen of the OLED B9, color shift started at 29 degrees and washed out started at around 50 degrees, while on the screen of the Q80R, color shift at around 40 degrees and color washed out started at around 35 degrees. With this behavior, can be ascertained, brightness is maintained better in OLED B9 while color accuracy is maintained better in the screen of the Q80R. But in general, the LG B9 is better than the Q80R. It is able to maintain the picture accuracy at wider angle than the Q80R. On the other hand, although not as good as LG B9, the side viewing angle of the Q80R is better than most TVs with VA panel.
Winner: LG OLED B9
Just like other model of OLED TVs, the LG B9 also has nearly-instantaneous pixel response time. The result, when it is playing fast moving images like fast sports or games, the picture displayed looks very smooth with almost no visible blur behind the fast moving object. But as we have known, at the same time, the instantaneous pixel response time can cause the images appears to stutter, particularly when it is playing low frame rate content like 24p movies or 30 fps content. But even so, this can be minimized by enabling its motion interpolation or BFI mode.
On the other hand, although not as low as the LG B9, the Samsung Q80 also has excellent pixel response time. Its pixel response time is around 12 ms, low enough to make motion looks smooth with almost no visible blur. Following fast moving object, there is only a short faint trail which should be hard to notice in normal content. Its low pixel response time also makes the images appears to stutter, but not as severe on the screen LG B9.
Meanwhile, when playing 24p movies, both Samsung Q80R and LG OLED B9 can do a great job in handling judder. Regardless the source of the movies, they both can show them smoothly with judder free. But even so, to remove the judder, on OLED B9, you just need to simply enable “Real Cinema”, while on the Q80R, “Auto Motion Plus” must be set to “Custom” and both “Blur Reduction” and “Judder Reduction” sliders must be set to “0”.
Winner: LG OLED B9
The LG OLED B9 and Samsung Q80R both have excellent input lags in “Game Mode” and their input lags are almost similar. With 60 fps content, regardless the resolution, the input lags of the LG B9 is around 14 ms while the input lags of the Q80R is around 15 ms. With 120 fps content, on both 1080p and 1440p resolution, the input lag of the Q80R is around 6 ms while the input lag of the LG B9 is around 7 ms. Meanwhile, in VRR mode, the input lag of the Q80R at both 1080p and 1440p resolution is around 6 ms while at 4K resolution is around 14 ms. With their excellent input lags, can be ascertained, both of them are very responsive when used for playing any games. Even when you are playing fast paced games that require fast reflexes, you will play them responsively without delay.
For watching movies
Both Samsung Q80R and LG OLED B9 are great TVs for watching movies in a dark room. But even so, the OLED B9 is still better than the Q80R. It has perfect black level and excellent black uniformity that deliver amazing dark room performance. Its pixel dimming level also further improves its dark room performance. Meanwhile, although not as excellent as LG B9, dark room performance of the Q80R is also excellent. It has native contrast ratio and excellent black uniformity. Additionally, it also has excellent local dimming feature that can further its performance in a dark room. Meanwhile, their similarity is that they both can do a great job in handling 24p judder, allow you to watch movies with judder free, regardless the source.
Winner: LG B9
For Watching Sports
LG OLED B9 and Samsung Q80R are also equally great TVs for watching sports. They both have excellent motion handling, makes fast sports can be shown smoothly with almost no visible blur. Meanwhile, their good side viewing angle coverage makes them are greats TVs for watching a big game with a group of your family and friend. And combination of good SDR brightness and good reflection handling ensure you to enjoy sports in a bright room with great picture quality. Meanwhile, the better thing of the OLED B9 is it can show smoother motion and has better side viewing angle, makes the picture displayed looks better when viewed from extremely wide angle. On the other hand, the better thing of the Q80R is it can deliver much brighter peak brightness that makes it is better when used in a bright room with many lights or windows.
Winner: Samsung Q80R is better in very bright room, OLED B9 is better when you watch sports from extremely wide angle
For Playing Games
As we have discussed a lot above, LG OLED B9 and Samsung Q80R both have excellent input lags. Combined to their excellent motion handling and excellent picture quality, this allows you play any game responsively with excellent picture quality and smooth motion. The good thing is that they both also already support VRR technology that can improve their game experience, allows you to play game with screen tearing free. Their HDMI ports also already support ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mod) that can automatically change the TV mode to “Game Mode” once the signal from compatible game console is detected, so you don’t have to remember to switch to ‘Game’ mode each time you want to play a game. Meanwhile, the advantage of the Q80R is it supports FreeSync VRR that already supported by a lot of device, while OLED B9 supports HDMI Forum that is not compatible with FreeSync or GSync. The issue is this format is not supported by many devices and for this time, only Xbox One that already support this format.
Winner: Samsung Q80R
Both Samsung Q80R and OLED B9 have great HDR experience. They both have deep black that is able to make shadow details of HDR images pop. Their wide color gamut and good color gradient also makes them can show HDR images with vivid color and smooth color gradient. Additionally, they both also have good HDR peak brightness, makes HDR images displayed on their screen looks as bright they should be. They both can even show small highlight brighter than the rest, makes small highlight of HDR images look outstandingly on their screen. Meanwhile, compare among them, since the OLED B9 has nearly-perfect black, it can show shadow details of HDR images better than the Q80R. On the other hand, since the Q80R has much brighter HDR peak brightness, it can do a better job in revealing details in bright scene than the LG OLED B9. Additionally, the small highlight also looks more standout on the screen of the Q80R than the OLED B9. Even in certain scene, the Q80R can show HDR images as bright intended by the content creator, which is at 1000-4000 nits of brightness range HDR image are usually mastered for.
Winner: LG OLED B9 is better in dark scene, Samsung Q80R is better in small highlight and bright scene.
|Performance||LG OLED B9||Samsung Q80R|
|Smart TV Experience|
As we have discussed a lot above, both LG OLED B9 and Samsung Q80R are great TVs for mixed usage. Regardless they are used for watching movies in a dark room, watching sports in bright room with a group of your friend, playing games, or HDR experience, their performance is really good. So, which is a better choice between them? The decision comes back to your preferences according to your viewing habit. If you often watch TV or movies in a dark room, the LG OLED B9 certainly is better. On the other hand, if you often watch TV in a bright room, the Samsung Q80R is better. Essentially, LG B9 is better in black level, the Q80R is better in peak brightness.